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Alan Tadd
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2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/13 17:04 Hi Guys

John and Charlie delivered the cars to me today and the "throng" has been joined by two of my cars . My Lotus from last year and a Porsche I built for another Proxy event but never got round to entering....and yes Bill it's prettier than yours.. .

Charlie, John and myself did get a chance to drive the cars and what a great collection they are....Graham's car is transformed from the slightly nervous beast from last year , and the actual race will be interesting as there are some great cars and my track is a real "leveller".

Al I've never seen such a complicated method of acheiving a" final drive", using 5 pinions where I would have used one....ingenious .
Driving impressions of all the cars will follow when Bill's and Mac's cars arrive.

I have to get back to gluing back mirrors, headlight lenses etc on my cars, following the Prince's spirited driving session!......
Speak soon

Alan
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/14 20:21 hi alan, i remember sneaking a peep at gordon tapsells f.w.d. and i recall the front axle springs almost self centred themselves. a great car and driver. barry wades auto onion used to straighten its steering by banging against its stops and almost never de-slotted.
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/16 18:37 Hi Alan

Thanks for your hospitality earlier in the week. Charlie and I had a great time. Could you tell? Good job I hid the "all breakages must be paid for" sign when I first arrived!

I'll be interested to read your further impressions of the proxy cars but in the meantime here are a couple of photos I snapped during our visit.

Charlie's BRM pursues Alan's Lotus 18:



Another shot of the BRM this time following Alan's "prettier than Bill's" Porsche:



Also Alan, if you have a pen and paper handy, here are the owner numbers for the Concours voting:

1 Bryan BRM
2 Charlie BRM
3 John BRP
4 Mac Ferrari
5 Bill Porsche
6 David Ferrari
7 Joel Ferrari
8 Jay H Brabham
9 Dave BRM
10 Graham BRM
11 Paul Cooper
12 Jim Lola
13 Alexis Ferrari
14 EM Ferguson

Remember you can't vote for your own Porsche - even if it is "prettier than Bill's"
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/16 19:53 Thank you John for posting those pictures of Alan's track, the Midford Combe name perfectly fits the rural scenery.
I look forward to seeing how all the cars perform there.

David
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/16 21:05 Great pics John ,It would be nice also if Alan could post a wide angle shot of the full track if possible , I can only ever remember seeing views of sections so it would be nice to see a full view to imagine Im there
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/16 22:43 Thanks John for your comments and your company!.........

Graham, I'll try to take some photo's but 1) It's difficult in the shed to get an overall shot of the track, 2) I still have difficulty posting photo's on here, but I'll have a go.

Today I had the chance to get some driving in on these cars, and what a priviledge it was.

The comments are in no particular order and are pretty random in nature, but you might find them useful.

Car #6 - Ferrari - David
I could tell straight away without looking it was one of David's cars, superb to look at, very smooth and quick. It did deslot a fair amount from the front and usually on the downhill adverse camber bend!...I think the problem lies in the guide and the motor wires. They look a tad (sorry), short and stop the guide turning as it should. The car also has limited brakes and tends to tip on corners if driven enthusiastically.
Lap times around 4.4 seconds.

Car #7- Ferrari - Joel
Very smooth and quick car that handles very well and is a delight to drive. Unfortunatly it has almost zero brakes. I think with more "suitable" gearing this car could be a contender for honours here.
Lap times around 4.3 seconds

Car #8 - Brabham - Jay
Stunning car that drives as good as it looks. Smooth and fast with just a hint of gear noise. Average brakes. The car suits my track and should do well in the race.
I have to say I don't like the way the crown gear is visible from above, it does, in my opinion, detract from the overall appearance.
Lap times around 4 seconds

Car #12 - lola - Jim
Uktra smooth car, very quick and with very good brakes. Again the car tends to deslot on the downhill bend on my track, again due to problems with the guide which catches on the bodywork on tight bends.
Lap times around 4 seconds

Car #9 - BRM - Dave
Great looking car, asyou would expect from Dave. The car is quick but a little hesitent in some corners. I tracked down the cause of this problem to the long braids shorting out on the front steering arm.The car is fairly smooth but has zero brakes. The car also deslots on the downhill bend. I seem to remember Dave's ATS from last year,did the same thing. It seems to be steering related as when the car is pushed the inside wheel seems to "tuck under" and throw the car from the slot...it may be that I'm not used to driving steering cars, but it does mean you have to slow downconsiderably to take this corner.
Lap times around 4.4 seconds

Car #13 - Ferrari - Alexis
Poor old car has certainly been in the wars, and has now lost a bit more of it's nose!..Sorry Alexis. The car is not very smooth and dosen't accelerate very well. It does have good brakes and is fine in corners up to a point and then it will suddenly brake away and tip with no warning. The tyres also don't seem to grip very well, and they are fitted the wrong way round..... I think part of the problem is the guide which is very shallow and the braids which are very thick. A Slot.it or TSRF guide would transform the handling. The car also had an alarming tendancy to "leap" over the dead strip on my track which is the Lap Counter!.
Lap times around 4.5 seconds

Car # 17 - BRM - Bryan
Fantastic car!...Very quick and ultra smooth. It has limited brakes but that doesn't really matter as the car handles so well. Braids are a little thick and performance could possibly be improved with a thinner variety.
Lap times around 3.9 seconds

Car #11 - Cooper - Paul
Very good all round car, with superb looks. Handles very well and has average brakes and grips.
Lap times around 4 seconds

Car #2 - BRM - Charlie
Very smooth and exceptionally fast car. Handles pretty well but does not like rapid changes of direction , (such as the "esses"). The car rewards careful driving but is not easy to lap in a consistant manner.
Lap times around 3.9 seconds

Car ? - Ferguson - Al
What can I say about this car. Tremendous engineering employed in the build with beautiful bodywork. Unfortunatly it is very slow, noisy (not surprising with the number of gear transfers) and also tends to lock up the rear wheels on over run. I understand a pack is on route from Dave to sort out some of the problems.
Lap times around 4.9 seconds

Car #10 - BRM - Graham
Fantastic car, very fast, smooth and almost impossible to deslot. This car will do 3.8 second laps all day long.
The most noise from the car comes from the front wheels, which sound just like Phil Kalbfel's Derilin shod Proxy cars.
If I had to choose one car from this collection to own, it would be this one.
Lap times 3.8 seconds

Car #3 - BRM - John
Another great looking, quick and smooth car, but has limited brakes, but as it handles so well it doesn't cause a problem. An easy car to lap consistantly.
Lap times 3.9 seconds.

Driving impressions of Mac and Bill's car to follow when they arrive, although obviously Bill's Porsche doesn't look as good as mine!....

I can rectify some of the points mentioned in the above comments(such as Dave's braids), if I am allowed to. Please let me know.

Thank you guys for the enjoyable morning you gave me.

Regards

Alan
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/20 03:38 Hello Alan,

Thanks for your evaluation. I hope that I'm not too late with this...I have had that problem with my car before. I think a little tweaking of the screw that holds the body on will fix the problem.

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Jim
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/20 20:59 Hi Jim

I'll sort out your car tomorrow.

Guys

I understand Mac and Bill's cars are at the Post Office so I'll pick them up tomorrow and with a bit of luck I'll get qualifying done.

Race day on Saturday and Gary Skipp (LMP)is coming down.

The event will take the form of runs against the clock. Each car will run for three minutes on each lane (x2) giving a total running time of 12 minutes.

Good luck gentlemen............

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Alan
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/21 15:14 I finally picked up Mac and Bill's cars from the Post Office today. Sorry for the delay.

#21 - Ferrari - Mac

Nice looking car with a race patina!.....Very quick and handles very well, but grip seems poor on my track and the car has very limited brakes. I'm afraid I'm not very keen on the exposed crown wheel at the rear...Sorry!.
Laptimes around 4.0 seconds

#7 - Porsche - Bill

Shame it is not as good looking as mine but still a very good car, perhaps a touch noisier than most but nothing to worry about. Quick car with good handling and superb brakes, probably would be at the top of the tree if it had better grip.
Laptimes around 4.0 seconds.

OK. This completes the observations on the cars, next Qualifying.

This will be short and aweet and will not count towards the race total. ! min run to try and record the fastest lap.......Doesn't leave much room for error so the results may be surprising.

Regards

Alan
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Re:2008 Round Three Midford Combe - 2008/08/21 15:27 Qualifying Results

1st #11 BRM John 3.805
2nd#4 BRM Graham 3.869
3rd #17 BRM Bryan 3.884



4 Brabham - Jay - 3.903
5 BRM - Charlie - 3.905
6 Ferrari - Mac - 3.949
7 Lola - Jim - 3.961
8 Porsche - Bill - 3.962
9 Cooper - Paul - 4.020
10 Ferrari - Joel - 4.026
11 Lotus - Alan - 4.098
12 Ferrai - David - 4.123
13 BRM - Dave - 4.358
14 Ferrai - Alexis - 4.515
15 Ferguson - Al - 4.547

Interesting results. It seems like a BRM is the car to have, and John outqualifying Graham....I certainly didn't expect that.

Very close results and I can't wait for the race.

In the meantime I'll take some snaps of the car and send them to John to publish...(still doesn't work for me..too dense I guess).

Regards

Alan
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