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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/13 21:35 Ive now also replaced the rear axle brgs with soldered in slot it items and changed the contrate for a 26t instead of the 28t and it certainly feels better than before turning in 7.05 on my track when pushed hard and steady 7.2s when not on the limit .which is very good although I fear it may not have the legs for south end or wolves ,but it seems to handle ok now .
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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/14 10:32 After a couple of days when everthing went wrong with the BRM I had to switch to plan B and have now almost finished a Sharknose Ferrari.





It may look like the rtr Scalextric car but I've glued the shell together and cut out the bottom to accept the scratchbuilt "BRM" chassis. I've re-attached part of the rear suspenion detail and added "Jack Brabham" from the Scalextric Cooper. I've used an Andy Searle step down rear bracket and a BWA front as well as BWA wheels with the Scaelx wires turned down and fitted as inserts.

I'll give it its firts run this evening and post it off to Dave by Wednesday or Thursday.

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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/14 10:59 Hi David,

The Ferrari is looking very good. That shell must be one of ( if not THE ) best representaions of the car ever produced. It must have been a bit of a leap of faith to glue and cut the original...... excellent stuff.

My own build of Hill's Zandvoort winning B.R.M. has definitely stalled due to pressure of sketching/painting and I am now faced with a rather strict deadline. I may have to resort to plan B and use the body I prepared last year for the half tonner event. I had thought of swapping to a Lotus 25 but no matter how I tweek the chassis I can't get the ground clearance........ never mind, I guess the B.R.M. will at least make up the numbers ( again !!!).

Whilst I now have both Jim's Lola and Jay's Brabham I am still waiting for Al's car to arrive.

I will post a pic or two of what I manage to "salvage" for my entry later on in the week.

All the best for now.

Dave
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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/15 09:45

I had great fun when I held my pre proxy test at Earls Hall Park last night with the completed Sharknose, Cooper and Ferrari all running reasonably well.
I'm confident that Joel's 1963 Ferrari 156 will be reliable this year it has a green can slimline motor and the small green Slot it contrate so it has quite good acceleration but poor brakes, once you get a flow going it laps quite quickly.
Paul's 1962 Cooper T60 which he raced at the Wolves Halftonner and hasn't been touched since went well and has fair acceleartion and moderate brakes but like Joel's car goes well once you adapt your driving style.
My 1961 Ferrari 156 is quite a lively performer with gearing more suited to the medium sized circuits of most of the proxy series, it has good acceleration and brakes and I'm fairly confident of it picking up some points.
I parcelled the cars up this morning and should post them to Dave by tomoorow.
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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/16 14:23 Dave

I sent off Joel's, Paul's and my cars to you this lunchtime. They've gone Special Delivery to arrive at yours before 1pm tomorrow.

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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/16 15:23 Bryan dropped by yesterday evening for a spot of tyre truing and "testing" (in the process of which we managed to knock off a good few concours points!) and I hope he won't mind me posting these work in progress "spy shots" of his Scuderia Centro Sud BRM:



As with his Lotus last year, The suspension detailing is superb:






Just a couple more photographs from the evening:

Bryan's 1964 Cooper-Climax speeds past my BRP-BRM while Charlie's BRM and a Lotus 24 wait in the pits:



Half-tonners in the paddock:

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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/16 15:33 Looking really good john ,both yours and bryans I really like the suspension detail but I think if he keeps geting better we'll have to handicap him by removing his fingers and making him build with his feet .Any way I'll bring the thumbscrews for a start
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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/17 18:50 Hi All,

Just thought I would give you an update on the cars to date so here is a pic taken earlier on today of the cars currently here at the moment. Apart from cars from the "locals" we are still waiting for Al's Ferguson.
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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/18 18:13 Running sub-title "Excuses, excuses"

(Warning - long post)

By Wednesday evening, it had become abundantly clear that the only way the P99 was going to make it for opening race of the series would involve the purchase or an airline ticket and hand-carrying of the car to the venue. While I am willing to go to some considerable lengths in the pursuit of my passion, this seemed a bit much but, as the prototype did not contest all of the races in its first season, we hope that we shall be allowed to join the series in progress.

As to the reasons - as the final weeks unrolled, the project began to remind me of one of the more delightful bits of comic writing that I remembered from some years back - so - with the reader's kind indulgence:

THE BRICKLAYER'S STORY
by
Gerard Hoffnung
(from his Oxford Union speech)

I've got this thing here that I must read to you.
Now, this is a very tragic thing... I shouldn't, really, read it out.
A striking lesson in keeping the upper lip stiff is given in a recent number of the weekly bulletin of 'The Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors' that prints the following letter from a bricklayer in Golders Green to the firm for whom he works.

Respected sir,

When I got to the top of the building, I found that the hurricane had knocked down some bricks off the top. So I rigged up a beam, with a pulley, at the top of the building and hoisted up a couple of barrels of bricks.
When I had fixed the building, there was a lot of bricks left over.
I hoisted the barrel back up again and secured the line at the bottom and then went up and filled the barrel with the extra bricks.
Then, I went to the bottom and cast off the rope.
Unfortunately, the barrel of bricks was heavier than I was and before I knew what was happening, the barrel started down, jerking me off the ground.
I decided to hang on!
Halfway up, I met the barrel coming down... and received a severe blow on the shoulder. I then continued to the top, banging my head against the beam and getting my fingers jammed in the pulley!
When the barrel hit the ground, it burst it's bottom... allowing all the bricks to spill out. I was now heavier than the barrel and so started down again at high speed!
Halfway down... I met the barrel coming up and received severe injury to my shins!
When I hit the ground..: l landed on the bricks, getting several painful cuts from the sharp edges!
At this point... I must have lost my presence of mind... because I let go of the line!
The barrel then came down... giving me a very heavy blow and putting me in hospital!

I respectfully request 'sick leave'.


As I started to collect plans and photos for this model, I noticed that the P99 carried two fuel tanks, one in the tail and a second alongside the driver on the left hand side of the car. Having already decided to follow the front-engined arrangement of the prototype, i further resolved to run the drive shaft through this same area in order to avoid a rotating bit transecting the driver's abdomen. Obviously, this would entail some gearing but I felt that the high efficiency of spur gears would offer no more drag that some form of flex coupling which i can never get perfectly aligned - and this is the reason for for the reversed rear bracket:

Here is how it worked out:





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As you can see, there are a total of 6 gears - 5 pinions and a crown gear - more on this later.

The front is conventional with a modified TSRF guide:

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Another view showing the resulting offset:

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And the "rattle pan" to which the body was (and will be) attached.

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Now, I consider myself to be a fair hand at soldering but, nonetheless, the close proximity of the suspension bits meant that more than a few of the joints had to be redone several times over - and then came the gearing. The dreaded "spun pinion" is generally easily avoided by soldering the gear in question to the motor shaft. When, however, there are five of them, involving both (2) 1.5>2 mm sleeved shafts and (2) 2 mm drill blank shafts (drill blanks are solder unfriendly) the opportunities for disconnection are greatly increased!

After several days of testing involving a number of instances of hearing the warning high speed whine (whinge?) of a suddenly unloaded motor, I finally managed to get everything well fixed (I hope) Of course, the drive train need a final test so I held the car in place, applied power and firmly pressed the rear wheels to the track - blowing the crown gear!

Having a functional chassis at last, I assembled the waiting body and began final testing. Now, if you look at a photo or plan of the P99, you will note that the front suspension requires really large cut-outs on either side of the body, leaving only a narrow "wasp-waist" of body work connecting the motor cover to the nose. Without detailing a painful experience, i will leave it to the reader to imagine the results of a high-speed front first encounter with a track boundary.

Repairs, including a steel wire in epoxy reinforcement are complete and the paint is nearly dry enough to apply the decals (again)

I can report one success - the gearing worked out as planned from an efficiency perspective. The bare motor will begin to turn at about 0.9 volts and draws 0.150 amps at 2.5 volts. As installed, with all of the gearing, the motor will turn over at 1.2 volts and draws 0.170 amps at the same 2.5 volts.

Barring a barrel falling on my head, I hope to ship next week


Yr Fthfl Svt

EM

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Re:Hear Yea! Hear Yea! Proxy Round 1 Announcement - 2008/07/18 20:01 So Al at last all is revealed nice bit of gear work, sheer genius
The rear bracket had me puzzled but alls clear now
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